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[office-server] принтер Samsung ML-2015 в Office Server 4.0
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îÁ ÍÁÛÉÎÅ ÓÔÏÉÔ Office Server 4.0, ÐÏÄËÌÀÞÁÀ ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒ Samsung ML-2015
ÞÅÒÅÚ USB. õÄÁÌÅÎÎÏ ÚÁÈÏÖÕ × CUPS É ÐÙÔÁÀÓØ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ÉÔØ ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒ. ÷ÒÏÄÅ
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ÐÅÒÅÈÏÄÉÔ × ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÅ "ÏÓÔÁÎÏ×ÌÅÎÏ". îÁ ÚÁËÌÁÄËÅ Printers ÒÑÄÏÍ Ó
ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒÏÍ ÐÏÑ×ÌÑÅÔÓÑ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ Ï ÏÛÉÂËÅ, ÞÔÏ ÎÅ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ ÎÁÊÔÉ ÆÉÌØÔÒ
(ÎÅ ÐÏÍÎÀ, ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ ÔÉÐÁ /usr/lib/share/cups/mmp...).
åÓÌÉ ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒ ×ÙÂÉÒÁÀ ÉÚ ÐÒÅÄÌÁÇÁÅÍÏÇÏ ÓÐÉÓËÁ, ÔÏ ÐÉÛÅÔ, ÞÔÏ ÎÅ ÍÏÖÅÔ
ÓËÏÐÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ppd ÆÁÊÌ. åÓÌÉ ÐÒÉ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ ×ÙÂÉÒÁÔØ ppd ÆÁÊÌ, ÉÄÕÝÉÊ ×
ËÏÍÐÌÅËÔÅ Ó ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒÏÍ ÎÁ ÄÉÓËÅ, ÔÏ ËÏÐÉÒÕÅÔÓÑ ÎÏÒÍÌØÁÎÏ,
ÕÓÔÁÎÁ×ÌÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ, ÐÒÅÄÌÁÇÁÅÔÓÑ ÓÔÒÁÎÉÃÁ ÎÁÓÔÒÏÊËÉ ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒÁ. îÏ ÐÏÔÏÍ,
ÐÒÉ ÐÏÐÙÔËÅ ÎÁÐÅÞÁÔÁÔØ ÔÅÓÔÏ×ÕÀ ÓÔÒÁÎÉÃÕ ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÏÐÉÓÁÌ
×ÙÛÅ.
ðÒÏÂÕÀ ÎÁ ALD4/brunch 4.0 - ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒ ÓÔÁ×ÉÔÓÑ ÎÁ ÕÒÁ. ðÒÁ×ÄÁ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÁ
ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏ.
þÔÏ × Office Server ÎÁÄÏ ÐÏÄËÒÕÔÉÔØ, ÞÔÏ ÂÙ ×ÓÅ ÚÁÒÁÂÏÔÁÌÏ?

é ÅÝÅ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ. ëÁË _ÐÒÁ×ÉÌØÎÏ_ ÎÁ Office Server 4.0 ÐÏÄÎÑÔØ ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ
ÐÅÞÁÔÉ? é ÔÁË, ÞÔÏ ÂÙ ÐÅÞÁÔÁÔØ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ ËÁË ÉÚ ALD ÔÁË É ÉÚ
ÏÆÔÏÐÉËÁ.

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2008-07-07 10:38:44 UTC
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ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏ.
á ÞÔÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÐÏËÁÚÙ×ÁÅÔ control cups
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2008-07-07 10:59:36 UTC
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ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏ.
á ÞÔÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÐÏËÁÚÙ×ÁÅÔ control cups
ïÔ×ÅÔÉÔØ ÓÍÏÇÕ ÔÏÌØËÏ ×ÅÞÅÒÏÍ, Ë ÓÏÖÁÌÅÎÉÀ.
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2008-07-07 11:01:00 UTC
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2008-07-07 15:52:59 UTC
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ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏ.
á ÞÔÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÐÏËÁÚÙ×ÁÅÔ control cups
unknown × ÏÂÏÉÈ ÓÌÕÞÁÑÈ: ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏÍ ALD4, ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÍ Office Server

ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
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2008-07-07 20:53:54 UTC
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÷ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ ÏÔ ðÏÎÅÄÅÌØÎÉË 07 ÉÀÌÑ 2008 Mike Shuvalov
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ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÍ Office Server
ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
äÁ × ÐÒÉÎÃÉÐÅ ÎÉËÁËÏÊ :)
#>control | grep cups
cups server (server local)
åÓÔØ Ä×Á ÒÅÖÉÍÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ cups - ËÁË ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ, É ËÁË ÌÏËÁÌØÎÁÑ ÍÁÛÉÎÁ.
òÅÖÉÍ server - ÜÔÏ ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍÁÌØÎÏÅ (ÎÏ ÎÅ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏÅ :) )
ÔÒÅÂÏ×ÁÎÉÅ, ÞÔÏ-ÂÙ ÅÇÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØ ÄÌÑ ÓÅÔÅ×ÏÊ
ÐÅÞÁÔÉ. é ÏÎÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÎÅ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÅÎÏ.
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2008-07-07 21:07:22 UTC
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unknown × ÏÂÏÉÈ ÓÌÕÞÁÑÈ: ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏÍ ALD4, ÞÔÏ ÎÁ
ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÍ Office Server
ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
äÁ × ÐÒÉÎÃÉÐÅ ÎÉËÁËÏÊ :)
#>control | grep cups
cups server (server local)
åÓÔØ Ä×Á ÒÅÖÉÍÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ cups - ËÁË ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ, É ËÁË ÌÏËÁÌØÎÁÑ ÍÁÛÉÎÁ.
òÅÖÉÍ server - ÜÔÏ ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍÁÌØÎÏÅ (ÎÏ ÎÅ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏÅ :) )
ÔÒÅÂÏ×ÁÎÉÅ, ÞÔÏ-ÂÙ ÅÇÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØ ÄÌÑ ÓÅÔÅ×ÏÊ
ÐÅÞÁÔÉ. é ÏÎÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÎÅ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÅÎÏ.
é ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ×ËÌÀÞÉÔØ, ÄÁÂÙ ÐÅÒÅ×ÅÓÔÉ cups × ÒÅÖÉÍ server?

cups unknown (server local)
find: /usr/bin/dvdrecord: No such file or directory
find: /usr/bin/readcd: No such file or directory
find: /usr/sbin/rscsi: No such file or directory
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é ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ×ËÌÀÞÉÔØ, ÄÁÂÙ ÐÅÒÅ×ÅÓÔÉ cups × ÒÅÖÉÍ server?
cups unknown (server local)
control cups server

http://wiki.sisyphus.ru/admin/control
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é ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ×ËÌÀÞÉÔØ, ÄÁÂÙ ÐÅÒÅ×ÅÓÔÉ cups × ÒÅÖÉÍ server?
cups unknown (server local)
control cups server
http://wiki.sisyphus.ru/admin/control
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é ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ×ËÌÀÞÉÔØ, ÄÁÂÙ ÐÅÒÅ×ÅÓÔÉ cups × ÒÅÖÉÍ server?
cups unknown (server local)
control cups server
http://wiki.sisyphus.ru/admin/control
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÷ÏÏÂÝÅ ÜÔÏ ÔÅÍÁÔÉËÁ ÓËÏÒÅÅ community@, ÞÅÍ ÓÐÉÓËÁ ÐÏ _ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔËÅ_
Office Server. :)
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é ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ×ËÌÀÞÉÔØ, ÄÁÂÙ ÐÅÒÅ×ÅÓÔÉ cups × ÒÅÖÉÍ server?
cups unknown (server local)
control cups server
http://wiki.sisyphus.ru/admin/control
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÷ÏÏÂÝÅ ÜÔÏ ÔÅÍÁÔÉËÁ ÓËÏÒÅÅ community@, ÞÅÍ ÓÐÉÓËÁ ÐÏ _ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔËÅ_
Office Server. :)
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é ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ×ËÌÀÞÉÔØ, ÄÁÂÙ ÐÅÒÅ×ÅÓÔÉ cups × ÒÅÖÉÍ server?
cups unknown (server local)
control cups server
http://wiki.sisyphus.ru/admin/control
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é ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ×ËÌÀÞÉÔØ, ÄÁÂÙ ÐÅÒÅ×ÅÓÔÉ cups × ÒÅÖÉÍ server?
cups unknown (server local)
control cups server

http://wiki.sisyphus.ru/admin/control
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2008-07-07 21:17:06 UTC
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unknown × ÏÂÏÉÈ ÓÌÕÞÁÑÈ: ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏÍ ALD4, ÞÔÏ ÎÁ
ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÍ Office Server
ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
äÁ × ÐÒÉÎÃÉÐÅ ÎÉËÁËÏÊ :)
#>control | grep cups
cups server (server local)
åÓÔØ Ä×Á ÒÅÖÉÍÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ cups - ËÁË ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ, É ËÁË ÌÏËÁÌØÎÁÑ ÍÁÛÉÎÁ.
òÅÖÉÍ server - ÜÔÏ ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍÁÌØÎÏÅ (ÎÏ ÎÅ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏÅ :) )
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òÕÓÌÁÎ, ÐÏ×ÅÓØÔÅ FR, ÜÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÞÅÒÅÚ web-ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ. éÌÉ ÄÁÖÅ ÂÁÇÕ.
÷Ù ÍÅÎÑ ÏÐÅÒÅÄÉÌÉ Ó ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑÍÉ :)
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Office Server ? cÅÒ×ÅÒÎÁÑ ÏÐÅÒÁÃÉÏÎÎÁÑ ÓÉÓÔÅÍÁ Ó ÆÉËÓÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÍ ÎÁÂÏÒÏÍ
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úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ Aleksey Novodvorsky
÷ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ ÏÔ ÷ÔÏÒÎÉË 08 ÉÀÌÑ 2008 Aleksey Novodvorsky
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òÕÓÌÁÎ, ÐÏ×ÅÓØÔÅ FR, ÜÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÞÅÒÅÚ web-ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ. éÌÉ
ÄÁÖÅ ÂÁÇÕ.
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1. ñ ÎÅ Õ×ÅÒÅÎ, ÞÔÏ ÎÅÔ ÎÉËÁËÏÇÏ ÁÌØÔÅÒÁÔÏÒÁ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÊ-ÂÙ ÕÐÒÁ×ÌÑÌ
control (ÎÅ Õ ÔÏÍÕ, ÞÔÏ ÂÁÇÕ ÎÅ ÈÏÞÕ ×ÅÛÁÔØ, Á Ë ÔÏÍÕ, ÞÔÏ
ÐÙÔÁÀÓØ ÐÏÎÑÔØ × Þ£Í ÏÎÁ ÚÁËÌÀÞÁÅÔÓÑ :) ).
https://bugzilla.altlinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16304

2. EÓÔØ-ÌÉ Õ ÎÁÓ ÐÒÁ×ÉÌÁ × ËÁËÏÍ ÐÏÌÏÖÅÎÉÉ ÄÏÌÖÅÎ ÎÁÈÏÄÉÔØÓÑ
control ÐÏÓÌÅ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÝÅÇÏ ÐÁËÅÔÁ? õ cups ÏÄÎÏ
×ÒÅÍÑ ÐÏ ÕÍÏÌÞÁÎÉÀ ÓÔÏÑÌÏ local, ÐÏÔÏÍ server, × ÄÁÎÎÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ
ÐÏÌÕÞÉÌÏÓØ, ÞÔÏ ÐÒÏÓÔÏ ÎÅ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ÌÅÎ. ñ ÐÏÎÉÍÁÀ ÔÁË- × ÏÂÝÅÍ
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* Linux 2.0 -- ÁÌØÔÅÒÁÔÏÒ SOHO/ChainMail 2.3;
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* Linux 2.6 -- ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÏÞÅÎØ ÈÏÞÅÔÓÑ ×ÉÄÅÔØ.

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(ÓÌÏÖÎÏÓÔÉ Ó ÓÅÔÅ×ÏÊ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÏÊ, kickstart; ÎÅÔ ËÒÉÐÔÏËÏÒÎÑ;
RAID ÔÁË ÖÅ ÍÕÔÏÒÎÏ ÓÏÚÄÁ×ÁÔØ, ËÁË É × ÒÅÄÈÁÔÅ).
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"ÚÁÄÕÍËÁ ÈÏÒÏÛÁÑ, ÁÒÈÉÔÅËÔÕÒÁ É ÒÅÁÌÉÚÁÃÉÑ ÕÖÁÓÎÙ; ÏÓÏÂÅÎÎÏ
× ÞÁÓÔÉ ÛÉÎÙ É ÓÔÏÒÁÄÖÁ". ðÒÉÅÈÁÔØ ÐÏÓÔÁÒÁÅÍÓÑ (×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ,
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ÎÁ Ü×ÏÌÀÃÉÏÎÎÏÅ ÒÁÚ×ÉÔÉÅ.
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Ä×Á ×ÅËÔÏÒÁ ÒÁÚ×ÉÔÉÑ:
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ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ ÕÖÅ ÎÅ ÁËÔÕÁÌØÎÏ ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÏ ÍÅÓÑÃÅ×.
2. áËËÕÒÁÔÎÁÑ ÒÁÓÞÉÓÔËÁ ÉÍÅÀÝÅÇÏÓÑ ÈÏÚÑÊÓÔ×Á É ÐÏÄÇÏÔÏ×ËÁ ÄÌÑ ÂÏÌÅÅ
ÆÕÎÄÁÍÅÎÔÁÌØÎÙÈ ÉÚÍÅÎÅÎÉÊ × ËÏÒÎÅ.

Office Server 4.x ÏÓÎÏ×ÁÎ ÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÏÍ alterator, ÓÄÅÌÁÎÎÏÍ × ÐÏÐÙÈÁÈ ÄÌÑ
Server 4.0 ÐÏÜÔÏÍÕ É ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÝÅÅ ÀÚÁÂÉÌÉÔÉ.

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ËÁË É ÐÏÄÄÅÒÖËÁ ×ÏÓÍÉÂÉÔÎÙÈ ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ÏË. óÅÊÞÁÓ ÍÙ ÕÖÅ ÇÏÔÏ×Ù ÎÅ
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Ä×Á ×ÅËÔÏÒÁ ÒÁÚ×ÉÔÉÑ:
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ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ ÕÖÅ ÎÅ ÁËÔÕÁÌØÎÏ ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÏ ÍÅÓÑÃÅ×.
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ÆÕÎÄÁÍÅÎÔÁÌØÎÙÈ ÉÚÍÅÎÅÎÉÊ × ËÏÒÎÅ.

Office Server 4.x ÏÓÎÏ×ÁÎ ÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÏÍ alterator, ÓÄÅÌÁÎÎÏÍ × ÐÏÐÙÈÁÈ ÄÌÑ
Server 4.0 ÐÏÜÔÏÍÕ É ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÝÅÅ ÀÚÁÂÉÌÉÔÉ.

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ÜÌÅËÔÒÏÎÎÏÊ ×ÅÒÓÉÉ, ÂÙÌÁ ÐÏÍÅÞÅÎÁ ËÁË BETA. äÌÑ ËÏÇÏ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ --
"ÈÏÒÏÛÁÑ ÖÅ Õ ÎÉÈ ÂÅÔÁ", ÄÌÑ ËÏÇÏ ÇÌÀÞÉÔ -- ÌÉÛÎÉÊ ÐÏ×ÏÄ ÐÏ×ÅÓÉÔØ
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production.

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ÏÔ ÞÅÌÏ×ÅËÁ ÐÒÉÎÉÍÁÌÉÓØ.

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×ËÌÉÎÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ DPI -- ÉÌÉ ÕÖÁÓÎÙÅ ÈÁËÉ ×ÒÏÄÅ ×ÓÅÍ "800x600,
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ÎÅ ÔÏÌØËÏ ËÁÒÔÉÎËÉ ÎÁÄÏ ÓÓÙÌËÁÍÉ (É ×ÏÏÂÝÅ ÌÉÛÎÉÅ ÏÎÉ), Á ÓÁÍÉ
ÎÁÚ×ÁÎÉÑ ÏÂßÅËÔÏ×. þÔÏ-ÔÏ ÅÝ£ ÂÙÌÏ, ÎÏ ÍÏÄÕÌÅÊ ÐÏÄ fbi ÎÅ ÐÉÓÁÌ
(ÔÏÌØËÏ -ovz ÞÕÔÏË ÐÒÁ×ÉÌ), ÐÏÜÔÏÍÕ ÎÅ ÏÔÌÏÖÉÌÏÓØ.

÷Ó£ ÜÔÏ ÒÁÚ×ÅÛÉ×ÁÌÏÓØ É/ÉÌÉ ÏÂÓÕÖÄÁÌÏÓØ; × ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÍ ÁËÔÕÁÌØÎÏ.

÷ÏÏÂÝÅ ÅÓÔØ ÍÎÅÎÉÅ, ÞÔÏ ÉÚÒÑÄÎÙÊ ÕÄÁÒ ÐÏ ÀÚÁÂÉÌÉÔÉ ÁÌØÔÅÒÁÔÏÒÁ
× 4.0.x ÂÙÌ ÎÁÎÅӣΠdesign decision ×ÉÄÁ "ÞÔÏÂ × links ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌÏ".
üÔÏ ËÏÌÏÓÓÁÌØÎÁÑ ÇÌÕÐÏÓÔØ (ÄÁÖÅ ÅÓÌÉ ÐÁÒÕ ÒÁÚ É ÐÒÉÇÏÄÉÌÏÓØ) --
ÔÅ, ËÔÏ ÚÎÁËÏÍÙ Ó links É ÓÐÒÁ×ÑÔÓÑ Ó ÔÁËÏÊ ÎÁ×ÉÇÁÃÉÅÊ,
ÈÁÒÁËÔÅÒÎÏ ÐÒÅÄÐÏÞÉÔÁÀÔ ssh É $EDITOR, Á ×ÏÔ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏÓÔØ
ÐÒÉÍÅÎÅÎÉÑ ajax ÂÙÌÁ ÔÁËÉÍ ÏÂÒÁÚÏÍ ÕÇÒÏÂÌÅÎÁ ÓÈÏÄÕ.

åÝ£ ÄÏ×ÏÌØÎÏ ÔÑÖËÏ, ÞÔÏ ÜÔÁ ×ÅÔËÁ ÁÌØÔÅÒÁÔÏÒÁ ÐÒÏÛÌÁ ÏÔ ÂÏÌÅÅ
ÂÏÇÁÔÏÇÏ UI (Qt) Ë ÂÏÌÅÅ ÂÅÄÎÏÍÕ (HTML/JS) -- ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ, ÏÂÒÁÔÎÙÊ
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ÄÌÑ ÆÒÏÎÔÜÎÄÏ×. óÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ, ÜÔÏ ÍÏÊ ×Ù×ÏÄ ÉÚ ÓÌÏ× óÔÁÓÁ.
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îÅ, ÎÕ ÂÁÇÉ-ÔÏ ÅÓÔØ ÎÁ ÞÔÏ ×ÅÛÁÔØ -- ÓÏ×ÓÅÍ ÎÅ ÐÕÓÔÏÅ ÍÅÓÔÏ :-)

--- Alterator-ng ---

÷ÏÔ ÎÁÓÞ£Ô "ÄÁÌØÛÅ" -- ÎÅ Õ×ÅÒÅÎ, ÞÔÏ ÍÙ Ó ÷ÁÍÉ ÄÒÕÇ ÄÒÕÇÁ ÓÅÊÞÁÓ
ÐÏÎÉÍÁÅÍ.

íÎÅ ËÁÖÅÔÓÑ ÒÁÚÕÍÎÙÍ ×Ù×ÏÄÉÔØ ÔÅËÕÝÉÊ ÁÌØÔÅÒÁÔÏÒ × ÓÔÁÂÉÌØÎÙÊ
ÒÅÖÉÍ, ×ÙÌÉÚÙ×ÁÔØ ÍÅÌËÉÅ ÂÏÌÑÞËÉ É 4.x (×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ, É 5.x)
×ÙÐÕÓËÁÔØ Ó ÎÉÍ. ôÅÍ ×ÒÅÍÅÎÅÍ ÎÅ ÇÒÏÂÉÔØ ×ÁÇÏÎÙ ÞÅÌÏ×ÅËÏ-×ÒÅÍÅÎÉ
ÎÁ ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔËÕ ÎÏ×ÙÈ ÍÏÄÕÌÅÊ ÂÅÚ ËÒÁÊÎÅÊ ÎÁÄÏÂÎÏÓÔÉ, Á ÐÏ ËÒÁÊÎÅÊ
ÍÅÒÅ ÞÁÓÔØ ÕÓÉÌÉÊ ÎÁÐÒÁ×ÉÔØ ÎÁ ÁÎÁÌÉÚ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍ, ÎÅÉÓÐÒÁ×ÉÍÙÈ ×
ÔÅËÕÝÅÊ ×ÅÒÓÉÉ ÂÅÚ ËÁÒÄÉÎÁÌØÎÏÇÏ ÒÁÚÌÏÍÁ ÏÂÒÁÔÎÏÊ ÓÏ×ÍÅÓÔÉÍÏÓÔÉ
(ÎÁÐÒÉÍÅÒ, ÆÏÒÍÁÔ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ ÎÁ ÛÉÎÅ) -- É ÎÁÞÁÌÏ ÒÁÂÏÔ ÐÏ ÐÌÁÔÆÏÒÍÅ,
ËÏÔÏÒÁÑ ÂÙ ÐÏÚ×ÏÌÉÌÁ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ ÞÔÏ _Ü×ÏÌÀÃÉÏÎÎÏ_ Å£ ÒÁÚÒÁÂÁÔÙ×ÁÔØ.

åÓÌÉ ÐÒÏ×ÅÓÔÉ ÁÎÁÌÏÇÉÀ Ó ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔËÏÊ ÑÄÒÁ, ÔÏ ÇÄÅ-ÔÏ ÔÁË:
* Linux 2.0 -- ÁÌØÔÅÒÁÔÏÒ SOHO/ChainMail 2.3;
* Linux 2.2/2.4 -- ÔÅËÕÝÉÊ;
* Linux 2.6 -- ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÏÞÅÎØ ÈÏÞÅÔÓÑ ×ÉÄÅÔØ.

îÁÐÏÍÎÀ, ÄÏ Linux 2.6 ÍÎÏÇÉÅ ÁÒÈÉÔÅËÔÕÒÎÙÅ ÍÏÍÅÎÔÙ ÑÄÒÁ ÐÒÉ×ÏÄÉÌÉ
Ë ÒÅÇÕÌÑÒÎÏÍÕ ×ÙÂÒÁÓÙ×ÁÎÉÀ É ÐÅÒÅÐÉÓÙ×ÁÎÉÀ ÓÕÝÅÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÈ ÂÌÏËÏ×
ËÏÄÁ ÉÌÉ ÐÒÅÄÏÐÒÅÄÅÌÑÌÉ ÓÅÒØ£ÚÎÙÅ ÂÏÌÑÞËÉ.

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ÏÂÒÁÔÎÏÊ ÓÏ×ÍÅÓÔÉÍÏÓÔÉ ÄÁÖÅ × ÔÅÞÅÎÉÅ ÇÏÄÁ. üÔÏ _ÎÅ_ 2.6.
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ÎÁ Ü×ÏÌÀÃÉÏÎÎÏÅ ÒÁÚ×ÉÔÉÅ.

ðÒÉ ÜÔÏÍ ÓÐÒÏÓÉÔÅ ÓÁÍÉ sbolshakov@, bga@, legion@ -- × ÆÕÎÄÁÍÅÎÔÅ
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ÚÁÄÁÞÉ -- É ×ÏÔ ÏÎ ÎÏ×ÙÊ Á×ÒÁÌ, ×Ó£ ÒÁ×ÎÏ ÐÅÒÅÐÉÓÙ×ÁÔØ.

ETA ÐÒÉÂÙÔÉÑ Á×ÒÁÌÁ -- 2009/2010.
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×ÙÄÅÌÑÅÔÓÑ × ÌÕÞÛÕÀ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÕ ÎÁ ÏÂÝÅÍ ÆÏÎÅ.
îÕ ÍÙ Ó ÒÅÂÑÔÁÍÉ ÎÁ ÄÎÑÈ ËÁË ÒÁÚ ÚÁÐÌÁÎÉÒÏ×ÁÌÉ ÄÅÖÕÒÎÙÊ
×ÎÕÔÒÅÎÎÉÊ ÏÂÚÏÒ ÔÅËÕÝÉÈ ÄÉÓÔÒÉÂÕÔÉ×Ï×, ÓÅÊÞÁÓ ÍÎÅ ÓÌÏÖÎÏ
ÓÒÁ×ÎÉ×ÁÔØ. ðÌÀÓÙ ÅÓÔØ, ÎÏ ÆÕÎËÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÏÓÔØ ×ÅÓØÍÁ ÕÚËÁÑ
(ÓÌÏÖÎÏÓÔÉ Ó ÓÅÔÅ×ÏÊ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÏÊ, kickstart; ÎÅÔ ËÒÉÐÔÏËÏÒÎÑ;
RAID ÔÁË ÖÅ ÍÕÔÏÒÎÏ ÓÏÚÄÁ×ÁÔØ, ËÁË É × ÒÅÄÈÁÔÅ).
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é ÈÏÒÏÛÏ ÂÙ ÉÚÂÅÖÁÔØ ÁÌÁÒÍÉÚÍÁ, ÓÅÊÞÁÓ ×ÒÅÍÑ ËÏÎÓÔÒÕËÔÉ×Á.
ðÏËÁ ÄÏÍ ÎÁ ÐÅÓËÅ -- ËÏÎÓÔÒÕËÔÉ×ÎÏ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÔØ, ÞÔÏ ÓÐÏËÏÊÓÔ×ÉÅ
ÌÏÖÎÏÅ. äÏ ÂÌÉÖÁÊÛÅÊ ÂÕÒÉ. ëÁË ÂÙ ÅÇÏ ËÒÁÓÉ×Ï ÎÅ ×ÙËÒÁÓÉÌÉ.

áÌÅËÓÅÊ, ÞÔÏÂ Ñ ÎÅ ÒÁÓËÁÒËÉ×ÁÌÓÑ -- ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ØÔÅ ÓÅÂÅ ÕÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÉÅ
ÄÅÓÑÔËÏÍ ÍÁÛÉÎ. ä×ÁÄÃÁÔØÀ. ä×ÕÍÑÓÔÁ. ðÒÉ ÐÏÍÏÝÉ alterator.
óÐÒÏÓÉÔÅ ÓÕÐÐÏÒÔ.

âÕÒÑ ÂÕÄÅÔ.
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÷ ïÂÎÉÎÓËÅ ÏÂÓÕÄÉÍ. ðÒÉ×ÏÚÉÔÅ ×ÁÛÅÇÏ ÜËÓÐÅÒÔÁ É/ÉÌÉ ÅÇÏ
ÚÁÍÅÞÁÎÉÑ.
þÅÌÏ×ÅË ÉÚÒÑÄÎÏ ÚÁÎÑÔÙÊ, Á ÚÁÍÅÞÁÎÉÑ óÔÁÓÕ ÄÁ×ÎÏ ÉÚÌÏÖÉÌ:
"ÚÁÄÕÍËÁ ÈÏÒÏÛÁÑ, ÁÒÈÉÔÅËÔÕÒÁ É ÒÅÁÌÉÚÁÃÉÑ ÕÖÁÓÎÙ; ÏÓÏÂÅÎÎÏ
× ÞÁÓÔÉ ÛÉÎÙ É ÓÔÏÒÁÄÖÁ". ðÒÉÅÈÁÔØ ÐÏÓÔÁÒÁÅÍÓÑ (×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ,
ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÏ ÒÁÎØÛÅ), ÎÏ ÏÔ×ÅÞÁÔØ ×ÙÈÏÄÉÔ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÚÁ ÓÅÂÑ.
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ÐÏÓÔÒÏÉÔØ ÎÁ ÓÔÅÎÄÅ ÒÅÌÅÊ, ÐÒÏËÓÉ É ÆÁÊÌÏÐÏÍÏÊËÕ.
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ÐÒÏÄÕËÔ ÎÅ ÐÏÌÎÏÓÔØÀ ÄÏ×ÅÄÅÎ ÄÏ ÕÍÁ, ÎÏ ÄÌÑ ÔÁËÏÇÏ ÒÅÌÉÚÁ ÓÏÚÒÅÌ. íÅÎÑ
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ÐÏÐÒÁ×ÉÍÏ, Á ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÙ ÀÚÁÂÉÌÉÔÉ. ôÅÍ ÎÅ ÍÅÎÅÅ, ÏÔÚÙ×Ù × ÃÅÌÏÍ
ÐÏÌÏÖÉÔÅÌØÎÙÅ É ÐÏÎÑÔÎÏ, ÞÔÏ ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÄÁÌØÛÅ.
ñ ÎÅ ÒÁÚÄÅÌÑÀ ÷ÁÛÅ ÍÎÅÎÉÅ Ï ÎÙÎÅÛÎÅÍ áÌØÔÅÒÁÔÏÒÅ. óÅÊÞÁÓ ÏÎ
ÒÁÚ×É×É×ÁÅÔÓÑ ÂÅÚ ÛÔÕÒÍÏ×ÝÉÎÙ, ÐÌÁÎÏÍÅÒÎÏ. ëÁË ÎÉ ÒÕÇÁÊ ÅÇÏ, ÎÏ ÎÁÛÁ
ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ ÓÅÒØÅÚÎÏ ×ÙÄÅÌÑÅÔÓÑ × ÌÕÞÛÕÀ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÕ ÎÁ ÏÂÝÅÍ
ÆÏÎÅ. é ÈÏÒÏÛÏ ÂÙ ÉÚÂÅÖÁÔØ ÁÌÁÒÍÉÚÍÁ, ÓÅÊÞÁÓ ×ÒÅÍÑ ËÏÎÓÔÒÕËÔÉ×Á. ÷
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ÐÏÓÔÒÏÉÔØ ÎÁ ÓÔÅÎÄÅ ÒÅÌÅÊ, ÐÒÏËÓÉ É ÆÁÊÌÏÐÏÍÏÊËÕ.
ìÕÞÛÅ ÐÏ×ÅÓØÔÅ. åÓÔØ ÒÁÚÎÙÅ ÍÎÅÎÉÑ.
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ëÁË ÐÏËÁÚÁÌÁ ÐÒÁËÔÉËÁ, × ÍÏÉÈ ÒÕËÁÈ "ÐÏÌÎÏÓÔØÀ" -- ÜÔÏ, ÍÑÇËÏ
ÇÏ×ÏÒÑ, ÎÅ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÝÅÅ ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔÉ ÕÔ×ÅÒÖÄÅÎÉÅ.
âÉÛØ ÐÏÄÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÔÏ×ÙÊ ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ ÂÅÚ ÓÉÄÅÎÉÑ × ËÏÎÓÏÌÉ É ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÏÇÏ
ÚÎÁËÏÍÓÔ×Á Ó postfix ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ
áÎÁÌÏÇÉÞÎÏ - samba
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ëÁË ÐÏËÁÚÁÌÁ ÐÒÁËÔÉËÁ, × ÍÏÉÈ ÒÕËÁÈ "ÐÏÌÎÏÓÔØÀ" -- ÜÔÏ, ÍÑÇËÏ
ÇÏ×ÏÒÑ, ÎÅ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÝÅÅ ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔÉ ÕÔ×ÅÒÖÄÅÎÉÅ.
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ÚÎÁËÏÍÓÔ×Á Ó postfix ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ
áÎÁÌÏÇÉÞÎÏ - samba
îÁÐÉÛÉÔÅ × bugzilla, ÞÅÇÏ ÎÅ È×ÁÔÉÌÏ.

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âÉÛØ ÐÏÄÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÔÏ×ÙÊ ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ ÂÅÚ ÓÉÄÅÎÉÑ × ËÏÎÓÏÌÉ É
ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÏÇÏ ÚÎÁËÏÍÓÔ×Á Ó postfix ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ
áÎÁÌÏÇÉÞÎÏ - samba
îÁÐÉÛÉÔÅ × bugzilla, ÞÅÇÏ ÎÅ È×ÁÔÉÌÏ.
[global]
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display charset = LOCALE
workgroup = AAA
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* ÒÅÇÕÌÅÒÑÔÏÒÁ security =
* ËÁÖÅÔÓÑ, ×ÎÑÔÎÏÊ ÓÏÚÄÁ×ÁÌËÉ ÛÁÒ
* ÓÏÚÄÁ×ÁÌËÉ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌÅÊ? (smbpasswd)

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Ë ÆÕÎËÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÏÓÔÉ.

íÏÒÄÙ Ë ËÏÎÆÉÇÁÍ ÎÉËÏÍÕ ÐÏ ÓÕÔÉ ÎÅ ÎÕÖÎÙ. ðÏÔÏÍÕ ÞÔÏ ÔÅ, ËÔÏ
ÄÕÍÁÅÔ ËÏÎÆÉÇÁÍÉ -- ÐÒÅÄÐÏÞÉÔÁÅÔ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÙÊ ÔÅËÓÔÏ×ÙÊ ÒÅÄÁËÔÏÒ,
ÜÔÏ ËÕÄÁ ÂÙÓÔÒÅÊ É ÕÄÏÂÎÅÊ (ÄÁÖÅ Ó ÕÞ£ÔÏÍ ÔÏÇÏ, ÞÔÏ ÍÏÒÄÁ ÕÂÉÒÁÅÔ
×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏÓÔØ ÏÞÅÐÑÔÁÔØÓÑ × ÆÉËÓÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÏÍ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÉ).

á ÄÌÑ ÔÅÈ, ËÏÍÕ ÎÕÖÎÏ ×ÏÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÆÕÎËÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÏÓÔØÀ --
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PPS: Ó ÁÂÒÉÓÁÍÉ ÂÙ ÕÖÅ ÄÁ×ÎÏ ÄÏÇÏ×ÏÒÉÌÉÓØ, ÄÁ.
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×ÒÏÄÅ ÔÅÈ ÖÅ ÞÁÒÓÅÔÏ× É ÔÅËÓÔÏ×ÙÍ ÐÏÌÅÍ ÄÌÑ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÑ...
ñ ×ÏÔ ÎÉËÁË ÎÅ ÍÏÇÕ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ×ÚÑÌÉÓØ ÚÁ ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÕÀ
×Å ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÌËÕ ÓÁÍÂÙ ×ÍÅÓÔÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÛÔÁÔÎÏÊ?
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Andriy
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email: dobr at iop dot kiev dot ua Kyiv, Ukraine
Phone: (380-44) 525-7824 Department of Gas Electronics
Fax: (380-44) 525-2329 Institute of Physics of NASU
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ñ ×ÏÔ ÎÉËÁË ÎÅ ÍÏÇÕ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ×ÚÑÌÉÓØ ÚÁ ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÕÀ
×Å ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÌËÕ ÓÁÍÂÙ ×ÍÅÓÔÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÛÔÁÔÎÏÊ?
üÔÏ ÔÙ ÐÒÏ swat? ïÎ ÄÁ×ÎÏ É ÂÅÚÎÁÄÅÖÎÏ ÍÅÒÔ×, Á ÉÚ 4.0.0 ÅÇÏ ×ÏÏÂÝÅ ÕÄÁÌÉÌÉ...
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ëÏÎËÒÅÔÎÏ × alterator-samba ÜÔÏ ×ÙÐÁÄÁÌËÁ ÓÏ ×ÓÅÍÉ ÐÏÚÉÃÉÑÍÉ
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ñ ×ÏÔ ÎÉËÁË ÎÅ ÍÏÇÕ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ×ÚÑÌÉÓØ ÚÁ ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÕÀ
×Å ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÌËÕ ÓÁÍÂÙ ×ÍÅÓÔÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÛÔÁÔÎÏÊ?
üÔÏ ÔÙ ÐÒÏ swat? ïÎ ÄÁ×ÎÏ É ÂÅÚÎÁÄÅÖÎÏ ÍÅÒÔ×, Á ÉÚ 4.0.0 ÅÇÏ ×ÏÏÂÝÅ ÕÄÁÌÉÌÉ...
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×ÅÂ-ËÏÎÆÉÇÕÒÁÔÏÒ Ó×ÏÅÇÏ ÄÅÔÉÝÁ... ëÏÎËÒÅÔÎÏ ÓÉÚÉÆÏ× ÔÒÕÄ ÐÏÌÕÞÁÅÔÓÑ...
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Andriy
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email: dobr at iop dot kiev dot ua Kyiv, Ukraine
Phone: (380-44) 525-7824 Department of Gas Electronics
Fax: (380-44) 525-2329 Institute of Physics of NASU
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×ÒÏÄÅ ÔÅÈ ÖÅ ÞÁÒÓÅÔÏ× É ÔÅËÓÔÏ×ÙÍ ÐÏÌÅÍ ÄÌÑ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÑ...
ñ ×ÏÔ ÎÉËÁË ÎÅ ÍÏÇÕ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ×ÚÑÌÉÓØ ÚÁ ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÕÀ
×Å ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÌËÕ ÓÁÍÂÙ ×ÍÅÓÔÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÛÔÁÔÎÏÊ?
üÔÏ ÔÙ ÐÒÏ swat? ïÎ ÄÁ×ÎÏ É ÂÅÚÎÁÄÅÖÎÏ ÍÅÒÔ×, Á ÉÚ 4.0.0 ÅÇÏ ×ÏÏÂÝÅ ÕÄÁÌÉÌÉ...
õÐÓ... îÁÄÏ ÖÅ... äÁ. ðÒÏ ÎÅÇÏ. ôÏÇÄÁ ÐÏÎÑÔÎÏ. èÏÔÑ, ÅÓÌÉ ÓÁÍÉ
ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔÞÉËÉ ÏÔÞÁÑÌÉÓØ ÐÏÄÄÅÒÖÉ×ÁÔØ × ÒÁÂÏÞÅÍ ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÉ
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Phone: (380-44) 525-7824 Department of Gas Electronics
Fax: (380-44) 525-2329 Institute of Physics of NASU
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ëÏÎËÒÅÔÎÏ × alterator-samba ÜÔÏ ×ÙÐÁÄÁÌËÁ ÓÏ ×ÓÅÍÉ ÐÏÚÉÃÉÑÍÉ
×ÒÏÄÅ ÔÅÈ ÖÅ ÞÁÒÓÅÔÏ× É ÔÅËÓÔÏ×ÙÍ ÐÏÌÅÍ ÄÌÑ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÑ...
ñ ×ÏÔ ÎÉËÁË ÎÅ ÍÏÇÕ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ×ÚÑÌÉÓØ ÚÁ ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÕÀ
×Å ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÌËÕ ÓÁÍÂÙ ×ÍÅÓÔÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÛÔÁÔÎÏÊ?
üÔÏ ÔÙ ÐÒÏ swat? ïÎ ÄÁ×ÎÏ É ÂÅÚÎÁÄÅÖÎÏ ÍÅÒÔ×, Á ÉÚ 4.0.0 ÅÇÏ ×ÏÏÂÝÅ ÕÄÁÌÉÌÉ...
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ëÏÎËÒÅÔÎÏ × alterator-samba ÜÔÏ ×ÙÐÁÄÁÌËÁ ÓÏ ×ÓÅÍÉ ÐÏÚÉÃÉÑÍÉ
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ñ ×ÏÔ ÎÉËÁË ÎÅ ÍÏÇÕ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ×ÚÑÌÉÓØ ÚÁ ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÕÀ
×Å ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÌËÕ ÓÁÍÂÙ ×ÍÅÓÔÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÛÔÁÔÎÏÊ?
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Andriy
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email: dobr at iop dot kiev dot ua Kyiv, Ukraine
Phone: (380-44) 525-7824 Department of Gas Electronics
Fax: (380-44) 525-2329 Institute of Physics of NASU
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âÉÛØ ÐÏÄÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÔÏ×ÙÊ ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ ÂÅÚ ÓÉÄÅÎÉÑ × ËÏÎÓÏÌÉ É
ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÏÇÏ ÚÎÁËÏÍÓÔ×Á Ó postfix ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ
áÎÁÌÏÇÉÞÎÏ - samba
îÁÐÉÛÉÔÅ × bugzilla, ÞÅÇÏ ÎÅ È×ÁÔÉÌÏ.
[global]
unix charset = UTF8
dos charset = CP866
display charset = LOCALE
workgroup = AAA
netbios name = BBB

* ÒÅÇÕÌÅÒÑÔÏÒÁ security =
* ËÁÖÅÔÓÑ, ×ÎÑÔÎÏÊ ÓÏÚÄÁ×ÁÌËÉ ÛÁÒ
* ÓÏÚÄÁ×ÁÌËÉ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌÅÊ? (smbpasswd)

÷ÏÏÂÝÅ ÎÁÂÌÀÄÁÅÔÓÑ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÄÅÌÁÀÔÓÑ ÍÏÒÄÙ Ë ËÏÎÆÉÇÁÍ, Á ÎÅ ÒÕÞËÉ
Ë ÆÕÎËÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÏÓÔÉ.

íÏÒÄÙ Ë ËÏÎÆÉÇÁÍ ÎÉËÏÍÕ ÐÏ ÓÕÔÉ ÎÅ ÎÕÖÎÙ. ðÏÔÏÍÕ ÞÔÏ ÔÅ, ËÔÏ
ÄÕÍÁÅÔ ËÏÎÆÉÇÁÍÉ -- ÐÒÅÄÐÏÞÉÔÁÅÔ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÙÊ ÔÅËÓÔÏ×ÙÊ ÒÅÄÁËÔÏÒ,
ÜÔÏ ËÕÄÁ ÂÙÓÔÒÅÊ É ÕÄÏÂÎÅÊ (ÄÁÖÅ Ó ÕÞ£ÔÏÍ ÔÏÇÏ, ÞÔÏ ÍÏÒÄÁ ÕÂÉÒÁÅÔ
×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏÓÔØ ÏÞÅÐÑÔÁÔØÓÑ × ÆÉËÓÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÏÍ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÉ).

á ÄÌÑ ÔÅÈ, ËÏÍÕ ÎÕÖÎÏ ×ÏÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÆÕÎËÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÏÓÔØÀ --
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ëÏÎËÒÅÔÎÏ × alterator-samba ÜÔÏ ×ÙÐÁÄÁÌËÁ ÓÏ ×ÓÅÍÉ ÐÏÚÉÃÉÑÍÉ
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PPS: Ó ÁÂÒÉÓÁÍÉ ÂÙ ÕÖÅ ÄÁ×ÎÏ ÄÏÇÏ×ÏÒÉÌÉÓØ, ÄÁ.
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8 ÉÀÌÑ 2008 Ç. 22:54 ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØ Anatol B. Bazyukin
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ëÁË ÐÏËÁÚÁÌÁ ÐÒÁËÔÉËÁ, × ÍÏÉÈ ÒÕËÁÈ "ÐÏÌÎÏÓÔØÀ" -- ÜÔÏ, ÍÑÇËÏ
ÇÏ×ÏÒÑ, ÎÅ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÝÅÅ ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔÉ ÕÔ×ÅÒÖÄÅÎÉÅ.
âÉÛØ ÐÏÄÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÔÏ×ÙÊ ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ ÂÅÚ ÓÉÄÅÎÉÑ × ËÏÎÓÏÌÉ É ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÏÇÏ
ÚÎÁËÏÍÓÔ×Á Ó postfix ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ
áÎÁÌÏÇÉÞÎÏ - samba
îÁÐÉÛÉÔÅ × bugzilla, ÞÅÇÏ ÎÅ È×ÁÔÉÌÏ.

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office-server mailing list
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#>control | grep cups
cups server (server local)
òÕÓÌÁÎ, ÐÏ×ÅÓØÔÅ FR, ÜÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÞÅÒÅÚ web-ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ.
éÌÉ ÄÁÖÅ ÂÁÇÕ.
üÔÏ É ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ ÞÅÒÅÚ ×Å -- × "ÓÉÓÔÅÍÎÙÈ ÏÂßÅËÔÁÈ".
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Linux 4.0 Office Server ??? cÅÒ×ÅÒÎÁÑ ÏÐÅÒÁÃÉÏÎÎÁÑ ÓÉÓÔÅÍÁ Ó
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ëÁË ÐÏËÁÚÁÌÁ ÐÒÁËÔÉËÁ, × ÍÏÉÈ ÒÕËÁÈ "ÐÏÌÎÏÓÔØÀ" -- ÜÔÏ, ÍÑÇËÏ
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ÚÎÁËÏÍÓÔ×Á Ó postfix ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ (ÎÁÐÒÉÍÅÒ, mydomain/mydestination/
myorigin/mynetworks -- ×ÁÖÎÙÅ ÉÌÉ ËÒÉÔÉÞÎÙÅ ÐÁÒÁÍÅÔÒÙ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ
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ÐÏÓÔÒÏÉÔØ ÎÁ ÓÔÅÎÄÅ ÒÅÌÅÊ, ÐÒÏËÓÉ É ÆÁÊÌÏÐÏÍÏÊËÕ.
ìÕÞÛÅ ÐÏ×ÅÓØÔÅ.
åÓÔØ ÒÁÚÎÙÅ ÍÎÅÎÉÑ.

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ëÁË ÐÏËÁÚÁÌÁ ÐÒÁËÔÉËÁ, × ÍÏÉÈ ÒÕËÁÈ "ÐÏÌÎÏÓÔØÀ" -- ÜÔÏ, ÍÑÇËÏ
ÇÏ×ÏÒÑ, ÎÅ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÝÅÅ ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔÉ ÕÔ×ÅÒÖÄÅÎÉÅ.
âÉÛØ ÐÏÄÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÔÏ×ÙÊ ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ ÂÅÚ ÓÉÄÅÎÉÑ × ËÏÎÓÏÌÉ É ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÏÇÏ
ÚÎÁËÏÍÓÔ×Á Ó postfix ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ
áÎÁÌÏÇÉÞÎÏ - samba
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÷Ù ÍÅÎÑ ÏÐÅÒÅÄÉÌÉ Ó ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑÍÉ :)
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Office Server ? cÅÒ×ÅÒÎÁÑ ÏÐÅÒÁÃÉÏÎÎÁÑ ÓÉÓÔÅÍÁ Ó ÆÉËÓÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÍ ÎÁÂÏÒÏÍ
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úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ Aleksey Novodvorsky
÷ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ ÏÔ ÷ÔÏÒÎÉË 08 ÉÀÌÑ 2008 Aleksey Novodvorsky
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ÄÁÖÅ ÂÁÇÕ.
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1. ñ ÎÅ Õ×ÅÒÅÎ, ÞÔÏ ÎÅÔ ÎÉËÁËÏÇÏ ÁÌØÔÅÒÁÔÏÒÁ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÊ-ÂÙ ÕÐÒÁ×ÌÑÌ
control (ÎÅ Õ ÔÏÍÕ, ÞÔÏ ÂÁÇÕ ÎÅ ÈÏÞÕ ×ÅÛÁÔØ, Á Ë ÔÏÍÕ, ÞÔÏ
ÐÙÔÁÀÓØ ÐÏÎÑÔØ × Þ£Í ÏÎÁ ÚÁËÌÀÞÁÅÔÓÑ :) ).
https://bugzilla.altlinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16304

2. EÓÔØ-ÌÉ Õ ÎÁÓ ÐÒÁ×ÉÌÁ × ËÁËÏÍ ÐÏÌÏÖÅÎÉÉ ÄÏÌÖÅÎ ÎÁÈÏÄÉÔØÓÑ
control ÐÏÓÌÅ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÝÅÇÏ ÐÁËÅÔÁ? õ cups ÏÄÎÏ
×ÒÅÍÑ ÐÏ ÕÍÏÌÞÁÎÉÀ ÓÔÏÑÌÏ local, ÐÏÔÏÍ server, × ÄÁÎÎÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ
ÐÏÌÕÞÉÌÏÓØ, ÞÔÏ ÐÒÏÓÔÏ ÎÅ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ÌÅÎ. ñ ÐÏÎÉÍÁÀ ÔÁË- × ÏÂÝÅÍ
ÓÌÕÞÁÅ ÜÔÏ ÄÏÌÖÎÏ ÏÐÒÅÄÅÌÑÔØÓÑ ÓÐÅÃÉÆÉËÏÊ ÓÁÍÏÇÏ ÄÉÓÔÒÉÂÕÔÉ×Á (Á
ÎÅ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÐÁËÅÔÁ) , Á ÚÎÁÞÉÔ ÐÒÁ×ÉÌØÎÙÊ (ÄÌÑ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÑ
ÐÏ-ÕÍÏÌÞÁÎÉÀ) control ÄÏÌÖÅÎ ×ÙÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ ÓËÒÉÐÔ × ÐÒÏÆÉÌÅ ÓÏÚÄÁÎÉÑ
ÄÉÓÔÒÉÂÕÔÉ×Á.
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cups server (server local)
òÕÓÌÁÎ, ÐÏ×ÅÓØÔÅ FR, ÜÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÞÅÒÅÚ web-ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ.
éÌÉ ÄÁÖÅ ÂÁÇÕ.
üÔÏ É ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ ÞÅÒÅÚ ×Å -- × "ÓÉÓÔÅÍÎÙÈ ÏÂßÅËÔÁÈ".
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ôÅÍ ÂÏÌÅÅ ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÁÌØÔÏ×ÓËÏÍ ÓÅÒ×ÅÒÅ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÉ ÓËÁÚÁÎÏ "...ALT
Linux 4.0 Office Server ??? cÅÒ×ÅÒÎÁÑ ÏÐÅÒÁÃÉÏÎÎÁÑ ÓÉÓÔÅÍÁ Ó
ÆÉËÓÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÍ ÎÁÂÏÒÏÍ ÆÕÎËÃÉÊ, ÐÏÌÎÏÓÔØÀ ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÍÁÑ ÞÅÒÅÚ
×ÅÂ-ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ..."
ëÁË ÐÏËÁÚÁÌÁ ÐÒÁËÔÉËÁ, × ÍÏÉÈ ÒÕËÁÈ "ÐÏÌÎÏÓÔØÀ" -- ÜÔÏ, ÍÑÇËÏ
ÇÏ×ÏÒÑ, ÎÅ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÝÅÅ ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔÉ ÕÔ×ÅÒÖÄÅÎÉÅ.

âÉÛØ ÐÏÄÎÑÔØ ÐÏÞÔÏ×ÙÊ ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ ÂÅÚ ÓÉÄÅÎÉÑ × ËÏÎÓÏÌÉ É ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÏÇÏ
ÚÎÁËÏÍÓÔ×Á Ó postfix ÎÅ ÕÄÁÌÏÓØ (ÎÁÐÒÉÍÅÒ, mydomain/mydestination/
myorigin/mynetworks -- ×ÁÖÎÙÅ ÉÌÉ ËÒÉÔÉÞÎÙÅ ÐÁÒÁÍÅÔÒÙ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ
ÎÉËÁË ÎÅ ËÏÎÆÉÇÕÒÉÒÕÀÔÓÑ).

âÁÇÉ ×Ó£ ÒÁÓËÁÞÉ×ÁÀÓØ ÐÏ×ÅÓÉÔØ, ÎÏ ÉÈ ËÏÌÉÞÅÓÔ×Ï É ÈÁÒÁËÔÅÒ
ÎÁ×ÏÄÉÔ ÎÁ ÍÙÓÌØ, ÞÔÏ ÌÕÞÛÅ ÐÕÓÔØ support@ É/ÉÌÉ QA ÐÏÐÒÏÂÕÀÔ
ÐÏÓÔÒÏÉÔØ ÎÁ ÓÔÅÎÄÅ ÒÅÌÅÊ, ÐÒÏËÓÉ É ÆÁÊÌÏÐÏÍÏÊËÕ.

PS: Ë bga@ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÔÕÔ ËÁË ÒÁÚ ÐÒÅÔÅÎÚÉÊ ÏÓÏÂÏ ÎÅÔ, ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ
ÓËÏÒÅÅ × ËÏÎÓÅÒ×ÁÔÏÒÉÉ -- ÎÕÖÎÙ ôú É/ÉÌÉ ËÒÉÔÅÒÉÉ ÇÏÔÏ×ÎÏÓÔÉ.
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ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÍ Office Server
ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
äÁ × ÐÒÉÎÃÉÐÅ ÎÉËÁËÏÊ :)
#>control | grep cups
cups server (server local)
åÓÔØ Ä×Á ÒÅÖÉÍÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ cups - ËÁË ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ, É ËÁË ÌÏËÁÌØÎÁÑ ÍÁÛÉÎÁ.
òÅÖÉÍ server - ÜÔÏ ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍÁÌØÎÏÅ (ÎÏ ÎÅ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏÅ :) )
ÔÒÅÂÏ×ÁÎÉÅ, ÞÔÏ-ÂÙ ÅÇÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØ ÄÌÑ ÓÅÔÅ×ÏÊ
ÐÅÞÁÔÉ. é ÏÎÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÎÅ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÅÎÏ.
é ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ×ËÌÀÞÉÔØ, ÄÁÂÙ ÐÅÒÅ×ÅÓÔÉ cups × ÒÅÖÉÍ server?

cups unknown (server local)
find: /usr/bin/dvdrecord: No such file or directory
find: /usr/bin/readcd: No such file or directory
find: /usr/sbin/rscsi: No such file or directory
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ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÍ Office Server
ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
äÁ × ÐÒÉÎÃÉÐÅ ÎÉËÁËÏÊ :)
#>control | grep cups
cups server (server local)
åÓÔØ Ä×Á ÒÅÖÉÍÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ cups - ËÁË ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ, É ËÁË ÌÏËÁÌØÎÁÑ ÍÁÛÉÎÁ.
òÅÖÉÍ server - ÜÔÏ ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍÁÌØÎÏÅ (ÎÏ ÎÅ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏÅ :) )
ÔÒÅÂÏ×ÁÎÉÅ, ÞÔÏ-ÂÙ ÅÇÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØ ÄÌÑ ÓÅÔÅ×ÏÊ
ÐÅÞÁÔÉ. é ÏÎÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÎÅ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÅÎÏ.
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ðÒÁ×ÄÁ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÁ
ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏ.
á ÞÔÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÐÏËÁÚÙ×ÁÅÔ control cups
unknown × ÏÂÏÉÈ ÓÌÕÞÁÑÈ: ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏÍ ALD4, ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÍ Office Server
ðÏÓÌÅ ÓÏÚÄÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒÁ ÞÅÒÅÚ ÍÏÒÄÕ ËÕÐÓÁ control É Õ ÍÅÎÑ Ó ÕÍÁ ÓÈÏÄÉÌ
É ÎÅ ÍÏÇ ÒÁÚÏÂÒÁÔØ ËÏÎÆÉÇÉ.
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ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
rpm -qa | grep cups
Ó ÏÂÅÉÈ ÍÁÛÉÎ ÓÒÁ×ÎÉÔØ ÂÙ, ÎÕ É ÌÏÇÉ ËÕÐÓÁ ÐÏÓÍÏÔÒÅÔØ ÂÙ.
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÷ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ ÏÔ Monday 07 July 2008 21:37:04 Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
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Server
ðÏÓÌÅ ÓÏÚÄÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒÁ ÞÅÒÅÚ ÍÏÒÄÕ ËÕÐÓÁ control É Õ ÍÅÎÑ Ó ÕÍÁ ÓÈÏÄÉÌ
É ÎÅ ÍÏÇ ÒÁÚÏÂÒÁÔØ ËÏÎÆÉÇÉ.
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ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
rpm -qa | grep cups
Ó ÏÂÅÉÈ ÍÁÛÉÎ ÓÒÁ×ÎÉÔØ ÂÙ, ÎÕ É ÌÏÇÉ ËÕÐÓÁ ÐÏÓÍÏÔÒÅÔØ ÂÙ.
üÔÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÓÔÏÉÔ ÎÁ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏÊ ÍÁÛÉÎÅ (ALD4):
[mike ÎÁ mikes-ws ~]$ rpm -qa | grep cups
ghostscript-cups-8.15.4-alt1.M40.2
libgnomecups-0.2.2-alt2
cups-1.2.12-alt6.M40.5
samba-client-cups-3.0.30-alt1.M40.1
libcups-1.2.12-alt6.M40.5
bluez-utils-cups-3.10-alt2

á ÜÔÏ ÎÁ ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÊ (Office Server 4):
[mike ÎÁ mikes-srv ~]$ rpm -qa | grep cups
ghostscript-cups-8.15.4-alt1.M40.2
cups-1.2.12-alt6.M40.5
samba-client-cups-3.0.30-alt1.M40.1
libcups-1.2.12-alt6.M40.5

îÏ, ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ, ×ÏÐÒÏÓ ÒÅÛÉÌÓÑ. îÁ ÓËÏÌØËÏ Ñ ÐÏÎÑÌ, ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ
ÐÅÒÅÍÅÓÔÉÔØ PPD ÆÁÊÌ ÉÚ /usr/share/cups/model/samsung
× /usr/share/cups/model.

# control | grep cups
cups server (server local)

èÏÔÑ control cups server ÒÕËÁÍÉ ÎÅ ×ÙÄÁ×ÁÌ.

úùö äÁ ÐÒÏÓÔÉÔ ÍÅÎÑ ÔÅÚËÁ, ÎÅ ÕÄÅÒÖÁÌÓÑ, ÏÔ×ÅÔÉÌ ÓÀÄÁ :)
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÷ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ ÏÔ Monday 07 July 2008 21:37:04 Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
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Server
ðÏÓÌÅ ÓÏÚÄÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒÁ ÞÅÒÅÚ ÍÏÒÄÕ ËÕÐÓÁ control É Õ ÍÅÎÑ Ó ÕÍÁ ÓÈÏÄÉÌ
É ÎÅ ÍÏÇ ÒÁÚÏÂÒÁÔØ ËÏÎÆÉÇÉ.
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ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
rpm -qa | grep cups
Ó ÏÂÅÉÈ ÍÁÛÉÎ ÓÒÁ×ÎÉÔØ ÂÙ, ÎÕ É ÌÏÇÉ ËÕÐÓÁ ÐÏÓÍÏÔÒÅÔØ ÂÙ.
üÔÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÓÔÏÉÔ ÎÁ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏÊ ÍÁÛÉÎÅ (ALD4):
[mike ÎÁ mikes-ws ~]$ rpm -qa | grep cups
ghostscript-cups-8.15.4-alt1.M40.2
libgnomecups-0.2.2-alt2
cups-1.2.12-alt6.M40.5
samba-client-cups-3.0.30-alt1.M40.1
libcups-1.2.12-alt6.M40.5
bluez-utils-cups-3.10-alt2

á ÜÔÏ ÎÁ ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÊ (Office Server 4):
[mike ÎÁ mikes-srv ~]$ rpm -qa | grep cups
ghostscript-cups-8.15.4-alt1.M40.2
cups-1.2.12-alt6.M40.5
samba-client-cups-3.0.30-alt1.M40.1
libcups-1.2.12-alt6.M40.5

îÏ, ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ, ×ÏÐÒÏÓ ÒÅÛÉÌÓÑ. îÁ ÓËÏÌØËÏ Ñ ÐÏÎÑÌ, ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ
ÐÅÒÅÍÅÓÔÉÔØ PPD ÆÁÊÌ ÉÚ /usr/share/cups/model/samsung
× /usr/share/cups/model.

# control | grep cups
cups server (server local)

èÏÔÑ control cups server ÒÕËÁÍÉ ÎÅ ×ÙÄÁ×ÁÌ.

úùö äÁ ÐÒÏÓÔÉÔ ÍÅÎÑ ÔÅÚËÁ, ÎÅ ÕÄÅÒÖÁÌÓÑ, ÏÔ×ÅÔÉÌ ÓÀÄÁ :)
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âÙÌÏ ÕÄÁÌÅÎÏ ×ÌÏÖÅÎÉÅ ÎÅ × ÔÅËÓÔÏ×ÏÍ ÆÏÒÍÁÔÅ...
éÍÑ : =?iso-8859-1?q?=CF=D4=D3=D5=D4=D3=D4=D7=D5=C5=D4?=
ôÉÐ : application/pgp-signature
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ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÍ Office Server
ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
äÁ × ÐÒÉÎÃÉÐÅ ÎÉËÁËÏÊ :)
#>control | grep cups
cups server (server local)
åÓÔØ Ä×Á ÒÅÖÉÍÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ cups - ËÁË ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ, É ËÁË ÌÏËÁÌØÎÁÑ ÍÁÛÉÎÁ.
òÅÖÉÍ server - ÜÔÏ ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍÁÌØÎÏÅ (ÎÏ ÎÅ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏÅ :) )
ÔÒÅÂÏ×ÁÎÉÅ, ÞÔÏ-ÂÙ ÅÇÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØ ÄÌÑ ÓÅÔÅ×ÏÊ
ÐÅÞÁÔÉ. é ÏÎÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÎÅ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÅÎÏ.
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âÙÌÏ ÕÄÁÌÅÎÏ ×ÌÏÖÅÎÉÅ ÎÅ × ÔÅËÓÔÏ×ÏÍ ÆÏÒÍÁÔÅ...
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ðÒÁ×ÄÁ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÁ
ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏ.
á ÞÔÏ Õ ×ÁÓ ÐÏËÁÚÙ×ÁÅÔ control cups
unknown × ÏÂÏÉÈ ÓÌÕÞÁÑÈ: ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÌÏËÁÌØÎÏÍ ALD4, ÞÔÏ ÎÁ ÕÄÁÌÅÎÎÏÍ Office Server
ðÏÓÌÅ ÓÏÚÄÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÉÎÔÅÒÁ ÞÅÒÅÚ ÍÏÒÄÕ ËÕÐÓÁ control É Õ ÍÅÎÑ Ó ÕÍÁ ÓÈÏÄÉÌ
É ÎÅ ÍÏÇ ÒÁÚÏÂÒÁÔØ ËÏÎÆÉÇÉ.
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ëÁËÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ?
rpm -qa | grep cups
Ó ÏÂÅÉÈ ÍÁÛÉÎ ÓÒÁ×ÎÉÔØ ÂÙ, ÎÕ É ÌÏÇÉ ËÕÐÓÁ ÐÏÓÍÏÔÒÅÔØ ÂÙ.
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